Immortal Issues (Hades)

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades nodded.

"Yes, it certainly will. I suppose it doesn't matter who I fight. In the end, they'll all fall. Facilier's army also must be dealt with. It is made of sorcerors. Rita, Facilier, Malachite, Dark Heart, and many others. And they may be getting new arrivals just like we do. So we don't know what new members they've gotten. I wouldn't mind taking a crack at Facilier. He may not be a god but he's certainly a powerful sorcerer and a threat." said Hades.

Hades nodded as the subject went to Maleficent.

"Yes. A shame she chose to side with the good guys. She's so powerful. Intimidating. Beautiful." said Hades.

He paused realizing what he just said and blushed.

"Alright. I can't help it. She's gorgeous but it wouldn't work. We're enemies so it's not likely going to change any time soon." said Hades.

He sighed wondering if he was going to find anyone. Aphrodite hadn't worked out. And now he was having a crush on the enemy. Things just didn't look good for him in the love department. Hades smiled as Loki promised to keep quiet about the potion.

"Good. Although it wouldn't hurt to have some help. If you have the time perhaps we could work on it together. A secret project. I suppose you could tell La if you want. I prefer no one else to know but you are dating her. And well one thing I know about relationships is no one likes being lied to. Besides she might know something that could help with the potion." said Hades.

Hades smiled as the topic shifted back to the golden apples.

"This is another thing we should keep quiet about. If you tell anyone it should only be La once more. We don't want to tip off Facilier or Critic about this. The golden apples obviously don't exist in this world but we don't want to tip our hand. There are only three gods in this war. The two of us and Thor. If we get any more it should be on our side. Not either of theirs." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"I believe he needs that confidence potion. Or at least some help. The poor boy has been through too much. He was lied and manipulated by nearly everyone. He watched someone turn into a donkey. Someone who begged him to help him and Pinocchio could do nothing. He went searching for his father and got swallowed by the same whale. They got out of the whale but he didn't make it Loki. He drowned. He actually died. The Blue Fairy came along and revived him and turned him into a real boy. He apparently used to be a living toy. A puppet. You need to watch that film sometime. Pinocchio may not want to relive that and may not tell you everything." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Yes. I don't normally deal with children. The only reason I tried to have my nephew killed as a baby was he was going to grow up and be a threat to me. And ironically he did even as a demigod." said Hades.

Hades chuckled as the subject shifted to Mechakara and Tony.

"I can't wait to see that battle. Those two just really dont' like each other." said Hades.

He grinned.

"Well seeing you two fight Thor and Captain America will be a battle worth watching. It should be quite fun." said Hades.

He paused shaking his head.

"It's no trouble. I will enjoying taking the green monster out. Maybe I'll keep him alive long enough for you to get some revenge as well if you want." said Hades.

Hades smirked.

"Well I could recreate Mt. Olympus. But the Greek pantheon had a lot of gods and goddesses. I would want to make my own pantheon. I guess you and La would be ruling your own kingdom. I would have to make some new gods of my own. Well if we can get golden apples to come here once I'm sure I could do it again and create my own army of gods and goddesses to help me build Mt. Olympus." said Hades.

Hades chuckled at Loki.

"Yes. I will not show how much I hate that name. Although most people from this world may already know I hate it. It wasn't exactly a secret I kept in my world. So hopefully no one will bring it up." said Hades.

He paused as they called Zeus a different names as well. Jupiter.

"Hey Jupiter's one of the biggest planets. All the Roman names were after planets. Or most of them were anyway. I should have been named Jupiter. And now there's rumor going around that Pluto isn't even considered a planet anymore." said Hades.

He sighed in annoyance wondering why the Romans had to give them different names in the first place.

[Loki]

"Yes, in the end, the opposing forces will fail. And as for Facilier, he has quite a reputation here" He smirked slightly before frowning out of spite "A shame he was such a fool and coward to betray this army. I almost feel sorry that his power is wasted because of his own selfish greed" He shrugged softly, his tone apathetic "But that would require me to like him in some fashion and I do not. Nor do I care for what power he has. You or I will quite have fun with him anyway"

"Now now hades. She is lovely but best you be careful. As you said, you two are enemies, I doubt she'll put her differences aside for it anyway. Do not worry Hades, you will find someone here I am sure" Loki did his best to sound assuring, but honestly he wasn't too fond of the idea of forbidden enemy romances. It was more complicated that way. He didn't bother to say anything else about it though. It would be disrespectful.

"It wouldn't but the less people that know, the less chance it has to be spread around and the information will be more safe. Yet La is very important to this and I feel she should know. As you said, I am obviously in a relationship with her. It would be wrong to deceive her when we are supposed to be honest with one another. But she will be the only other person that knows. I do not intend on telling anyone else but her" Loki responded. He may have been a slight hypocrite as to not lie but La was his girlfriend by this point and, as he learned from the mortals, he needed her to trust him. He lost that opportunity with a lot people. He didn't really need to lose her trust too.

"Yes only la and ourselves will know of these apples. Facilier is obviously smart enough and Critic is obviously brave enough. We cannot trust them whatsoever. We don't need anymore enemy immortal gods. We will focus on only la trying it. For obvious reasons. This is secret otherwise" Loki calmly responded. He knew the risks. He was going to try this anyway. He was glad Hades was in but also careful just like he was.

"The child does need help but not a potion quite yet. Let us try the natural method, such as simple talks and allowing the boy to be himself. Maybe all he needs overall is a, as the mortals say it, a friendly ear. He needs someone to trust. All those people have abused him and manipulated his good-will. If I was in his position, I'd kill all of those people or leave them to a fate worse then death. But then again I'm talking as a adult, not a child" Loki said as Hades brought up Pinnochio once more. He wasn't sure if forcing help like a potion would do too much good. Although he didn't want to get rid of the idea, Loki felt that talking to a child would work. It worked for him growing up when he was suffering growing pains.

Then came surprise and horror as Hades described the sufferings even Pinnochio didn't tell him yet. That Pinnochio himself witnessed another boy to turn into a donkey and despite the cries, Pinnochio was defenseless. The fact that he risked his life, and DID lose it, just to save Geppetto from being in the whale. Now he understood even more why Pinnochio was so hurt and disturbed by things. Loki knew the boy had a bad run with luck, especially when it came to random people manipulating the poor child's innocence. But not this bad. Enough to be forced to defenseless, even graphic, situations. He nodded, swallowing slowly at the descriptions he was told "I will watch the film by myself. I would never ask him to watch it with me" He was obviously talking about pinnochio. He rubbed his eyes, the descriptions of pinnochio's past actually upsetting him "That poor boy. I had no idea. He didn't tell me those yet. That poor boy" He sighed loudly, rubbed his somewhat distraught eyes and looked over to his friend. "If I ever see any of those people who manipulated him..." He growled, his hand suddenly glowing a tinge of red "I will kill them"

"Fate is a very cruel mistress my friend" Loki said, still upset over pinnochio "It will not be kind to anyone. Not even a god. Or a child" He sighed, closing his eyes, aware that if he didn't calm down. He'd lose it. He turned and paid attention to other conversations and smiled about future fights, such as Tony and Mechakara "That much is evident. The two butt heads like rams. And thor fighting with myself is quite a treat, Captain america and I though did have our coming and goings. I thank you for your offer for revenge against the hulk, it would be nice to have"

"Do what you wish. That sounds quite fun. Making your own worlds and people. Wait, can you do that? I thought only your brother could, do forgive me if I am wrong" Loki asked, his knowledge was good but had bits and pieces that were limited. He was curious though.

"Why on the norns' life would it not be considered a planet? It is in space, near the solar system! Should it not be? Is it because it is too small?" Loki asked, genuinely annoyed with this new information. He pondered and chuckled "Well perhaps they assumed Zeus was a big eater and decided the biggest planet would represent him accurately. But seriously though, why in the norns would they change your name to that anyway?"

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades nodded.

"Well, we can handle Facilier and the others. What's a sorceror compared to a couple of gods? He may throw a few surprises at us but that just makes the war a bit more fun. After all once we win there won't be another fight. Or another challenge. It may get boring after a while. So while this war won't last forever we should enjoy it while it does." said Hades.

Hades shrugged.

"Facilier and his allies will get what's coming to them. Death or slavery. That's what will happen to all our enemies." said Hades.

Hades chuckled at his words.

"Oh believe me I know we're on opposite sides. She is attractive but it wouldn't work with us anyway. On opposite sides. I'll find someone eventually. But for now I'll just live vicariously through other couples here." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Yes. Perhaps it should remain between the three of us. I can agree to that. I know she wouldn't say anything. She seems like the trustworthy type although you would know her more than me anyway." said Hades.

Hades nodded as Loki agreed only the three of them would know. The topic shifted to Pinocchio and he grinned.

"Very well. We'll use magic as a last resort. I'll let you and others help him. But if you feel he's not improving well or if he's even regressing reconsider using magic. It'd be for his own good. Perhaps we could ask him if it came down to it. I wouldn't like forcing him to take something like that. But if we gave him the choice I'm sure he'd agree." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Just be prepared. That poor kid's been through so much. Not even I would have put him through that much. If he had been my enemy. I tried to give my nephew a mercy killing as a baby but my henchmen screwed it up and he grew up a demigod. I tried to kill him repeatedly with monsters but all my attempts failed. But I'd never put a child especially someone so young through all that. Not even I'm that cruel." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Right there with you Loki. Stromboli, Honest John, Gideon, and the Coachman will all pay if they show up in this war." said Hades.

Hades grinned as the topic shifted to future battles.

"Perhaps I could have some fun with him first. His transformations are triggered by anger I think. I wonder how the Hulk would feel if he was stuck in that form. If the human Bruce Banner remained trapped in his own body. Would the Hulk be driven insane for being out for too long? Perhaps he'd even be an possible ally one day. Although something like this could go wrong. Or be reversed. So it would have to be done carefully. What do you think?" said Hades.

He nodded agreeing with Tony and Mechakara's rivalry. The topic shifted back to what lands they wanted.

"Well to be fair we all helped create the world in our universe. But the Titans created it first. We just sort of defeated them and took over." said Hades.

Hades chuckled at his words.

"They call it a dwarf planet. That it's too tiny to be considered a planet like the rest of them." said Hades.

Hades shrugged.

"Romans had different names for things. So when Zeus and the other Greek Gods showed up they gave us different names. Which is stupid. I don't know why I couldn't just be Hades for Greek and Rome." said Hades.

[Loki]

"Yes. We should enjoy what we can. Nothing, even wars, last long. Facilier's power is something we can handle, I agree, which is why I am not very intimidated by this fool. As impressive as his powers are, he himself really isn't. Personally, he is a lot of talk to me" Loki responded, a smirk coming onto his lips. He couldn't help but wonder how exactly Facilier was so powerful. Not a lot of things came absolutely free, loki knew this. Facilier was a mortal man, loki was a god. Both of them had to do something in return. Loki did it by being taught and practicing, like math or science, but Facilier's way of paying back must of been high. But what cost, loki wondered.

"Indeed, it will" Loki agreed when it came to the punishment of their enemies. He immediately found death for Thor to be a terrible idea, for some reason, and also for jane to be killed too would be a bit unfair. But slavery meant living and that was good enough for the bitter younger god. Loki nodded as Hades agreed with him that Maleficent and him would never work out and only responded though facial expressions of approval when Hades responded he would find someone soon, just not now. He then grinned pridefully as Hades called La trustworthy "She is incredibly trustworthy, I guarantee you"

"I can agree to these terms. We will use magic if naturally helping him does not work. And yes, we should allow him to have a choice and opinion on the matter also. The last thing he needs is for us to force him into a situation he may or may not be comfortable with" Loki responded, the conversation taking a different term, aimed precisely at Pinnochio. "I will be. Because I am watching the film by myself, so my reactions shall be a bit private in retrospective. I would never ask him or demand him to explain himself to me. I understand that you are not so bold or cruel as to harm children, but there are people who are that and perhaps worse than us" Loki's tone was persistent, maybe a bit defensive but it wasn't a negative tone.

"So those are their names? Excellent, now I know who exactly I must destroy if they ever see my face. They can join any other side but this one. The minute they step onto the front of this house" He showed a red glowing ball-like object and crushed it instantly, his facial features indicating the unknown rage that he has been hiding from these people. He never was angry at anyone yet but Hades was the first person to ever witness Loki's rage. And it was all because some little boy was abused. But it was a little boy loki cared about, and no-one was allowed to harm anyone Loki cared about.

"Perhaps. Insanity and anger can come together sometimes. But we should be careful with this idea. I like it a lot but Banner is not one to underestimate. I did" He shuddered again, once again remembering the events of Manhattan. Especially the large and quite painful beating he got from the Hulk. How he got so powerful was beyond loki, but he didn't care, he just wanted to do this possible idea carefully.

"Ah I see. That is a logical answer" Loki replied, nodding in understanding. Then he rubbed his face as Hades explained the scientists in this world declared pluto too small to be considered a technical planet and named it a dwarf planet "Humans can be incredibly insolent and confusing sometimes" He then nodded and shrugged as Hades mentioned the romans again "I do not know why either. Again, humans are confusing and insolent sometimes"

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades nodded.

"Glad we're in agreement. I think we should target the powerhouses in both armies really. With Maleficent, Facilier, Iron Man, and the others gone the rest will be easy to capture or take out." said Hades.

He smirked and paused with a grin.

"You know if we could find a way to block their powers it would give us the leverage we need. Maybe slip them a potion or something. If I can turn my god nephew Hercules into a demigod with a potion then surely we can get rid of their magic. Even if it's just temporary." said Hades.

Hades grinned as Loki was pleased he called La trustworthy.

"If you trust her that's good enough for me." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Only as a last resort. Magic doesn't always work they way you want it and can consequences. So I wouldn't want to damage the boy further if he can do this naturally." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"You should. I feel bad for the kid. Especially as Ask That Guy, Dark Nella, and Facilier made him believe his father abandoned him. I highly doubt that. But he has a new family here and he's happy. I wouldn't want to ruin that. But at the same time if his real father shows up here one day then that lie will be shattered." said Hades.

He nodded.

"The Coachman turned boys into donkeys as slave labor. Pinocchio had to watch a friend turn into one and started changing himself. If he hadn't died and saved his father's life he probably would be a donkey by now. Honest John and Gideon sold Pinocchio twice to those people. Stromboli enslaved him into his puppet show. They're all awful. I'm sure you'll see just how bad when you watch the film." said Hades.

Hades watched as Loki crushed a red glowing ball and he felt his rage. He nodded as the topic shiftd to Hulk.

"Then again perhaps we should try stopping his transformation. Bruce Banner is only a threat because of his intelligence. But Hulk's strength is more of a threat. If we stop the transformation then we just have to get rid of a scientist than a monster." said Hades.

Hades shrugged at that moving on. He nodded.

"I still think it's stupid. A planet is a planet but whatever. It's not like I like the name Pluto anyway. So humans think what they want about the planet. It's ironic as it's an ice planet and very cold. Ironic as I'm the God of death and you know I have power over fire." said Hades.

Hades shrugged.

"Yeah. Perhaps something we'll change when we take over. Maybe cast some spell so we can at least all speak to each other. I don't see the point in learning all of those languages if a simple spell makes us all speak English or whatever." said Hades.

Loki

[Loki]

(OCC: Extremely late response again, real sorry)

"Agreed. Focus on the more powerful in order to infiltrate the whole army" Loki responded, glad hades and he were of the same mind. He then nodded at Hades' idea of making the magic users or immortal weaker by slipping them a potion to block their powers. "If it was temporary it would still give us time. One way or another, blocking a magic user's powerful is difficult but not impossible. A potion, with enough strength, could make even the most powerful magician lose their powers for a long time" Loki chuckled softly. He immediately starting thinking of Facilier especially. He seemed like a powerful user despite his human class.

Loki nodded as the brief discussion related to La draw to a close. Then as the focuses on Pinnochio continued, Loki listened as Hades agreed that putting the boy through magic was only a last resort. Mostly because it was dangerous and probably would not work the way they wanted, especially related to a little boy's body. "Agreed. He's been through a lot. He deserves the time he has to use it properly" He then listened, his rage getting slightly worse, as Hades described what the villains against Pinnochio truly done. That the coachman was responsible for manipulating young boys to turn into donkeys, something of which a friend of Pinnochio's was forced to be a part of as Pinnochio was described to have witness the whole thing. Helplessness began to seep into the god. How could a boy be put through so much and still walk away unscathed? That the only thing truly damaging to him was the fact his supposed father abandoned him?

"I will still watch the film by myself yes. But from what you described to me, I think death is not a fitting punishment for any of the people spoken about. Especially that pair Honest John and Gideon. They will see what true pain and suffering is like. Then they will think twice when it comes to hurting young boys" Loki growled, his hands tightened into fists. He squeezed his hands so tight, his knuckles were ghostly white. He looked out to the world beyond hades and himself, green eyes seething with rage and unknown horror. "That boy did nothing wrong. He's only six weeks old" He growled

"We must deal with the beast before we worry about the man. The man is easy to grab up but it is the beast that protects him and many others" Loki replied, struggling to calm down about the pinnochio issue. He then nodded "Something must be done to stop banner from transforming" He replied softly, pondering hard about what possible magic could be there to stop him.

"The people who named the planets felt it seemed appropriete. I think they didn't factor the knowledge of the fact the roman gods are precisely the greek gods, just with different names and slightly different tales" Loki said, chuckling now. Hades had a point but Loki was not so insulted by this at all. He shrugged as Hades talked about making all races of the earth speak one simple language "It would certainly make giving them orders a lot easier"

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades nodded and grinned.

"Yes. A shame Grimhilde's on Critic's army. Potions are one of her specialties. We'll have to make sure to find a way to capture or injure her. No point in making a potion if she can undo it. She might be one of the few to know an antidote to any magic blocking potion after all." said Hades.

Hades sighed thinking of the poor boy.

"You know normally I wouldn't care about mortals. I'm the Lord of the Dead after all. Trying to care about mortals in my world would be pointless anyway. They all die eventually. But being here it's hard not to care about them especially Pinocchio. I mean he started off as an enchanted puppet and has already been through so much before this war. Then he turns human and his old father replaces him. I'm grateful the kid has you and his new family. I just hope we can stop him from not making any more deals with Facilier or anyone else. Facilier turned him into a teenager briefly and that got the boy kidnapped." said Hades.

Hades nodded as Loki said he'd watch the film himself.

"Hmm. I think I'd like to turn Stromboli into a puppet and The Coachman into a donkey for what they did to him. As for Honest John and Gideon well I'll leave that up to you." said Hades.

Hades frowned remembering how young Pinocchio still was.

"Even now he's still just a few months old. No wonder Ask That Guy and Dark Nella have been so overprotective of the boy. He's been through too much already. I know Critic's army wouldn't dare hurt him too badly if they didn't have to. They're too good. But Facilier his army is full of villains who wouldn't hesitate to hurt, cripple or kill any of us even the kids." said Hades.

Hades snapped his fingers as he got an idea.

"Wait. His anger channels the transformation right? What if we block off his anger? He can't transform if he can't get mad. We could make him always sad to boot. He wouldn't be much help with their inventions either if he was always sad." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"I know. It still annoys me. I'll just have to remember not to get angry as I'm sure someone will try to mock me with that name." said Hades.

Hades smirked.

"It certainly would. We could also just make some universal translation spell or something so no matter what anyone spoke they'd understood it. Whichever would be easier." said Hades.

Loki

[Loki]

Loki nodded about grimhilde's involvement with the army of Critic's rather than them "Indeed. A shame. Well kidnapping her in the future is a definite priority seeing we are going to attempt magical potions" He then listened more as Hades explained that since he was a god it was hard to feel sympathy for humans, but he did for them because he was getting to know them. Loki nodded sadly "I sympathize more with children because they have a chance to act differently than adults. They are more inclined to be curious, to learn, to make someone proud. Pinnochio seems like a good boy. He just was not given the right chance yet"

"Oh I assure you. Stromboli and the coachman's punishments will pale in comparision to my punishments. But you are free to have those two. It is honest john I'm after" Loki snapped his fingers and a fire immediately came into his hand before disappearing in a instant. Loki's smile was sadistic, his teeth out like a bunch of daggers.

"It seems they have no sense of morale over there. I don't think even I would stoop so low as to attack a small child" Loki sadly responded. He growled a little, evidentially angry as he realized how young Pinnochio really was. It made Loki more protective of him.

Loki widened his eyes as Hades figured out how to exactly fix the hulk issue. Prevent bruce from actually getting angry. "That is actually quite brilliant but how do we actually do that?" He then nodded with a amused smile "Anger is a weapon only to the opponent my friend. Be careful with your anger" He then nodded about the translation spell "That's definitely easier than learning all types of languages"

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades shrugged.

"Although she is one of the weaker members. Any of us could make potions but taking her out or weakening her would help us." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"Who knew one little boy could have so many people wrapped around his finger? And he's doesn't even know it." said Hades.

He chuckled at the thought.

"Well I might think of some other punishments. After all who says we have to punish them only one way for what they've done to Pinocchio." said Hades.

He paused in surprise.

"Perhaps we could just take turns. I mean Honest John seemed to have done the least from what I could tell. I mean he led him to danger but it was Stromboli who enslaved him and the Coachman who tried to turn him in to a donkey." said Hades.

Hades shrugged.

"I can't completely judge. I tried killing my nephew as a baby so he wouldn't stop my take over in the future. But all the plan did was turn him from a god into a demi god and he still stopped me anyway. And we can't go easy on kid members on the other armies either. Maybe we could just capture them instead." said Hades.

Hades grinned.

"We could make sure he only felt a certain emotion. Like happiness or fear. If he can't get angry we may never have to deal with the Hulk again. Or find a way to just block off his emotions in general. At least temporarily." said Loki.

He nodded.

"I know. I have to control my temper." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"It certainly is. And perhaps we should get some others involved. At least in translating. Some could know some unique potions and spells we haven't heard of." said Hades.

Loki

[Loki]

"It definitely would. It would weaken Critic and anything weakening him is strength for us" Loki responded. He then lowered his head in slight shame as Hades pointed out Pinnochio was a heart-holder among all the adults. Loki shrugged at that, unsure how to respond. He then nodded as Hades pointed out to find other ways to punish plus Loki had Stromboli and The Coachman to punish too "You are right. The two of them I do want to punish, which is why I give them to you. I know you can make the most of them"

"I do not want to take it easy on the children. I just do not want to kill them. I know, a dumb sentiment but it's something I cannot help. It is for me alone is all" Loki shrugged, feeling quite dumb for having to say this. But it was something honest within himself. Loki then nodded about Bruce "Whatever it may be, altering the anger aspect of bruce is a priority" He then nodded about translating "Agreed. I can speak all-tongue but not everyone can learn that"

[Hades/Nikos Callas]

Hades nodded.

"I've think I've got just the think. I think I'll turn Stromboli into a puppet and see how he likes someone pulling him by the strings. And The Coachman could make a fine donkey." said Hades.

He chuckled sinisterly at that. He paused thinking of the children members in the other armies.

"We could always knock them out. That's not taking it too easy on them. Although I haven't seen them in many of the fights lately. I think Facilier and Critic are trying to keep the kids out of the fighting as much as we do. We keep getting more recruits every day so it's not like we need the child and teen members of the army to fight after all." said Hades.

Hades nodded.

"If we could gain control of him even temporarily we could use his anger to unleash him on the others. Just imagine the irony and the look on their faces when their friend turns on them in the battlefield." said Hades.

He smiled.

"Good. That would be a big help." said Hades.

Loki